The High Barnet Station car park planning application is in!
Places for London (PfL), the partnership of Transport for London and Barratt London that wants to build on High Barnet Station car park, has submitted a planning application to the Council. Members of the public have until 2 September to comment on it. Above is a visualisation by jtp Architects & Masterplanners.
The designs are basically the same as those exhibited in February-March this year. The Barnet Society’s web post on 17 March set out our views on the development. Our conclusion then was that unless our concerns – especially regarding its overbearing scale, alien character, poor accessibility, and loss of almost all car parking – were addressed, the Barnet Society was minded to oppose the plans.
Since then, PfL have reduced the number of homes from 300 to 283 but increased the height of the tallest block to 11 storeys. They’ve also made some other adjustments to the designs of buildings and landscape. We’re scrutinising the 120-odd documents in discussion with Barnet Residents Association. As soon as we’ve come to a conclusion, we’ll publish a more detailed web post.
Meanwhile, you can view the application on the planning portal (reference 25/2671/FUL). The best documents to begin with are the Summary of Proposals followed by the Design & Access Statement (in 8 parts). Have your say via the Comments tab (but you’ll need to register first).
One drawing we haven’t been able to find so far is a single view of the whole scheme, but cut’n’pasting two elevations gives an overall impression of it from Barnet Hill.
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These block of flats are too high
Should be no more than 4 storeys.
Can’t imagine they will be affordable housing, which we need. High Barnet can not cope with the influx of traffic at that point…please reconsider this project.
It is not suitable in this area.
I’ve was born and bread in Barnet. There has been build after build and the area is now over populated.
I understand the need for housing but this is going backwards to high rise flats that we all know over time is a way of making as much money for the Council as possible, squeezing into ever spare space available.
This piece of land could have affordable family homes built on it, but no Sadiq khan has an agenda.
These flats will be bought either by rich landlords which will then be rented out for thousands of pounds, to families on Benefits. The tax pay will then be paying the bill. Or these flats are for commuter’s into London, who are on huge wages and can afford to buy these homes.
These are not for the normal family or young person who are working hard and not earning a higher than average wage. These are not for the young community who already live and work in Barnet.
Government/ Council look after what is already in front of you.
We need a new hospital, GPS Schools,
We need more Police, teachers, nurses and Drs, mental health services, childcare facilities etc….
You need to stop the mass immigration problem that we have.
You need to fix our crumbling Roads and not just with a plaster. You need to deal with the fraudulent businesses that are blighting our streets.
I could go on. The area does not need more large estates built. Yes some family homes but not 11 story flats. I completely object to this.
Does anyone know what our MP thinks about this? Last we heard he was saying he thought 10 stories was too high. TFL have come back with 11. His latest newsletter said nothing on this. Does his role as growth champion conflict with his role of representing the views of the people of Chipping Barnet?
Please check the link on the planning portal – it didn’t work. I could open the application using a search and reference number provided. Thank you for the article.
I’ve tried really hard to like this. A dense development at the side of the hill could enhance the site, but it needs thoughtful design adapted to the topography and location, which this is not. If the towers look cheap and oppressive in the visualisations – which they do (especially in the view looking up the hill) – they’re only going to look worse in reality. And we’ve lost the more ambitious plans for improving the footpath up the hill from the original proposal. TfL is desperate for cash (look at what they’re planning for the Waterloo and City line) and we have to recognise that, but something to mitigate the impact of the proposed western elevations would be a welcome improvement.
This, Mr A Wicks, is exactly where I’m at too.
It’s a perfect site for redevelopment but I don’t know what can be done to try and get developers to put communities above profit. I can’t believe they had the temerity to propose 11 stories when they knew perfectly well local people weren’t happy with 10!
The public realm improvements for this project on what will become an even more important transport interchange are woeful.
Personally I’d like to see more ambition. Include the station in the development, relocate the TFL office and the substation if possible, build new access to the other side of the station on Kingsmead.
I hope our MP can see beyond his rose-tinted growth spectacles, stand up and fight for this project to be something the community can be proud of!
Unfortunately with the elevation height of the land the buildings would be seen from Trent Park on one side, North Finchley from the South and from Mill Hill (obviously at certain points where other close buildings in those areas aren’t in the way) as they are literally on the highest point in London. At least you could see your own flat if you go on the London Eye.
It’s exciting to see this new development proposal. I believe the project will bring valuable investment into the area, help create local jobs, support our high street, and provide much-needed housing. While there are always concerns with new developments, the long-term benefits to the local economy and community far outweigh these challenges. Overall, this is a great step forward for the future of High Barnet.
What about schools, doctors etc to cater for all these people? Doctors’ surgeries are already overstretched and can’t cope with existing patients. What about access for the elderly and disabled who may need to park in order to use the tube and for whom buses may be difficult, especially at night/in the dark? Developers rarely stick to their promised number of affordable homes – they usually say they can’t afford it when they are well into the project and it’s too late for the council to do anything but nod it through. The height of some of the blocks is completely out of character with the surrounding area. Traffic on Barnet Hill is already at a virtual standstill with the new bus lane and further restrictions on traffic space will add to this. The A1000 is the main road to London feeding off the A1 and M25. People are not going to stop driving through or wanting to park to use the station. Where will all the commuters who come from further afield park? More competition on our roads and for rapidly reducing parking spaces.
Just NO !! Please do not destroy Barnet. 11 storeys is too high and not in keeping with Barnet at all. Where will people park when using the tube. Not everyone lives near a bus stop or within walking distance of the station. Another developer who doesn’t live in the area. Please don’t turn Barnet into a concrete jungle and listen to the people.
The development is really out of character and 11 Storeys is far too tall. I am not sure why anyone would be interested in buying an apartment overlooking the railway sidings but the development by Woodside Park station is much more in keeping and the developer appears to have more empathy with the environment
As much as I am all for affordable family homes, an 11 story concrete jungle has no space in Barnet. Please reconsider exactly how many comfortable, affordable family homes you can build without tuning our beautiful landscape to one similar to those found in zone 1 and 2. I can’t speak for all Barnet residents, but I for one choose Barnet because it’s rural, aesthetically pleasing and because it’s away from the hustle and bustle on inner city life. Bringing in an extra 300 households is absolutely insane. I might as well have stayed in Camden.
A complete and utter disaster. If they make a LOT smaller might work but leave the station car park for people to use to get there work. If this goes where will they park? Total madness, again, and all for profit and greed. I no longer go into Barnet because of the stupid new bus lane, can you imagine the upheaval with this working on if passed.. beggars belief.
I completely object to this planning. It destroys the character of Barnet in every way. There is no need to create such a crowded high rise development and take away the essential parking at the station. Where are the schools, hospitals,GPs that need to service this new influx of people. Barnet planners and councillors should also openly disclose their relationship with developers in this matter! Transparency !
The Barnet infrastructure can’t support a development in this space. The road is already busy. The train station needs a car park. This development must not go ahead.
Looks good in principle. Current site is a scruffy wasteland so should smarten up the area.
Absolutely against this. Barnet is already overcrowded. The traffic and parking problems will be immense. Aesthetically it will be disastrous changing the vista and character of Barnet. No parking at the station will force people out of the area and make it inviable to commute to work.
No way this is sustainable in the area unless they build an area for new doctors. Barnet as it is is full. I also have to mension vulnerable people’s access to the station.
Oh my goodness . This is horrendous, another blot on the landscape to be seen for miles around. Where is the infrastructure to support all these dwellings? Doctors for one example.
Please keep me updated
The proposed development is out of keeping with high barnet. The flats are too high and unsightly. The loss of car parking is misjudged as it is the end of a line station and many people rely on the station parking.
This will push people to park in surrounding areas.
The developers have again increased the height of building A from 6-8 storeys, to 10 and now 11. They have totally ignored the feedback from the 2 consultations earlier this year, which had substantial objection to both the height and positioning.
The tallest building should be at the base of Barnet Hill not next to the beautiful station building. This housing is needed and it will also provide a boost to the area’s retail businesses. It is on a brownfield site instead of the green-belt which is to be welcomed.
However, the loss of car parking will only increase pressure and congestion on surrounding roads as the station is in effect a park and ride for those living in surrounding areas (Hadley Wood, Arkley, Wrotham Park etc.). The public spaces are ill-thought out with little meaningful interaction with Barnet Hill and this density of housing could easily be accommodated in smaller blocks of 4-6 storeys if the ugly TfL office was demolished.
I completely agree. The station carpark will severely impact the congestion and residents parking. Commuters already use local roads to park and it is incredibly frustrating already having to park two roads away.
The area is over polluted so this will add to the fumes. Please don’t build here.
I am opposed to this development as I feel it is very ugly and overbearing. It’s not in keeping with the surrounding area. Where are all these people going to park there cars, go to the doctors, dentists, schools. Where will all the commuters park?
There’s so many flats in these proposed blocks, being crammed in, will they be affordable for young people, probably not!
I’m not opposed to something being built there but not these.